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We might be further away from Liverpool than we have ever been at the moment.

"By the time I had left here maybe 10 years ago we were much closer to Liverpool, we were competitive, competing around the same areas of the league at the time.

Everton manager David Moyes and Liverpool head coach Arne Slot on the sidelines during this season's first Merseyside derby.



Liverpool supporters might have not enjoyed the end, but I think generally there was a real sort of competitive game to it.

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Anfield is a different version of it.

"It's always been difficult for any team to go there and put that type of game on Liverpool
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